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--- Quote from: rick.ca on March 21, 2009, 03:08:08 am ---Effective management has nothing to do with control or time. The best possible situation nostra could wish for is a healthy, vibrant user community that takes care of itself.
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www.videodb.info has a donations button which I guess covers the cost of providing the facility to download the software. As such we all have a vested interest in maintaining this functionality.
Nostra has put an extraordinary amount of work in creating and supporting PVD. If I was him I would want to maintain control over how it was presented to the public, which would mean I would want to investigate any major change to the forum prior to it being implemented. My point is only that these things take time.
On another subject.
Is it possible to put a link to the Wiki contents page from the home page http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=PVD-Manual&structure=PVD-Manual
I believe this is a system generated / maintained page. It does appear to be incomplete though as many more pages are listed here http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-listpages.php Not sure what determines if a pages is added to the contents or not.
rick.ca:
--- Quote ---If I was him I would want to maintain control over how it was presented to the public...
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That's fine, and he will always be the ultimate authority. But expecting the exercise of that control will have any particular positive outcome is like expecting to be able to herd cats. Cats, however, can be led. But I'm not even suggesting it's up to nostra to lead. This is his hobby, which I assume he expects to enjoy without undue stress, and it hopefully comes after his family, friends and real job. Perhaps the most important leadership should coming from the users—to ensure we are collectively acting in a way that ensures our developer is not overwhelmed with things that need to be "controlled," and is having too much fun to ever wonder whether his efforts are worthwhile.
--- Quote ---Not sure what determines if a pages is added to the contents or not.
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That's an optional feature cwdean is working on. The layout of pages in the form of a manual (or book or whatever) has to be configured manually. All the system can do is put the pages in alphabetic order (or hits, date modified, etc).
nostra:
I think we'll stick with current forum engine and TikiWiki for now. The Wiki is getting better all the time. The only thing that makes me worry a little bit is that the server seems to be pretty slow :(
Never the less I am open for any suggestions on improving forums and/or Wiki. I like the idea of having everything in one place, so if someone will find a nice solution of this task then, please, let me know.
rick.ca:
--- Quote ---The only thing that makes me worry a little bit is that the server seems to be pretty slow
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It seems "normal" to me. But it's geographically close to me and far from you. Might that be it? Come to think of it, I experience regular slow downs and time-outs with this site. Maybe having two locations is a good way to achieve a global balance. ;)
cwdean:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on March 20, 2009, 09:37:07 pm ---
--- Quote ---Looks like I've somehow stirred up a hornet's nest.
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Hey, we're movie buffs. Today it's drama, tomorrow it's comedy... :( :D
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So true ;D
--- Quote ---As for the rest of your post, I agree completely. I appreciate both your intent, and all the effort you've put into this.
I'm not sure about the Tikipedia theme (except for the logo, of course ;) )—while more pleasing overall, I wonder if it will be more difficult because the details don't stand out as well. How do you find it from a maintenance point-of-view? Are all the same features there? Does it require a lot of things to be changed so it works?
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My pleasure. I think we're well on our way to figuring this out. The Tikipedia theme has been online this last Friday. All I had to do was install the Tikipedia theme (took about a minute) and change one configuration setting in the Wiki to turn it on. That was about it. No maintenance involved whatsoever (unless we find a bug while using, which is always possible with software ;) ). But so far everything seems to be working fine.
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