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Laraman:
I am not an expert on Kroozbox but as I understand it the program looks at the PVD database in its entirity and plucks the visible films out and uses that subset to make up HTML pages. It does not recognise filters or the seen flag to alter its content. Just the visible/ not visible flag to populate those pages. Thus it is critical to be able to mark the films you wish to appear as visible and the ones you dont as invisible. I suppose a use would be if the interface was being used by a family and you did not want all content to be available to say children.

rick.ca:
That's fine, but you have to appreciate "visibility" doesn't have the meaning you want it to have. It cannot function according to the database design and what you want at the same time—that has to be implemented as a separate function. As such, perhaps we should give more thought as to how the new feature might function effectively as sort of a "parental control." For example, a "hide record" function might not be good enough if it is easily turned off in the interface (I suspect this is one reason why you prefer the ability to make such records "invisible"). However it is implemented, you're going to be left with the issue of Kroozbox showing all movies, regardless of how existing or new filters are set. But that's a Kroozbox issue—one which I'm sure can easily be resolved with a change to Kroozbox.


--- Quote ---Always hide, of course, would work as expected (serving Laraman's purpose). This setting would have to be unaffected by Reset filters.
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It seems I didn't think this this one through. If is worked this way, it would be a very effective parental control. No one would ever be able to make a hidden record visible! I suppose a Show hidden records command is necessary. This could be put in the "advanced filters" submenu (where a casual/child user may not notice it) and be disabled in read-only mode.

Laraman:
I'm not sure about this it all seems to be getting a bit complicated. The ability to make films visible and not visible was part of the 0.9.9.5 build and I have been using it as such quite happily with kroozbox which presumably was being designed alongside the development of PVD and it used the facilities available to it within PVD. It was only making always show only available when the record is not visible that seems to have caused the loss of functionality and I was just using parental control as an example I do not use it for that myself. Just the ability to make sure only the films I want too appear in kroozbox.

rick.ca:

--- Quote ---I'm not sure about this it all seems to be getting a bit complicated.
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That's okay. That's often the price paid to come up with a feature or modification that's useful to more than just one user. ;)

In the meantime, it seems to me you still "delete" movies to make them invisible. And you might ask Nono if there's a way Kroozbox could exclude movies based on a bookmark or custom flag being set.

Laraman:
The problem with using delete to hide a record is you do not get it back in it's entirety when you undelete. I woulnt have a problem with doing that if it came back with all the info when it was deleted. The poster seems to disappear at first glance and I am not sure if it affects other things. I will stick to 0.9.9.5 for the time being and hope the facility comes back. Thanks for your inputs

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