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rick.ca:
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So it seems this is all nostra needs to add embedded Firefox, and it's easy to do. We, of course, don't care about preferences for inferior/evil browsers. ;)
The problem with finding trailers is not ambiguity in the title (although that has to be dealt with as well), it's that they all get buried in the crap posted by users. I've heard that many of the official trailers that do get posted there have to be taken down do to copyright or terms of use violations.
My personal experimenting isn't over, but it seems the most efficient way to get trailers is to simply use the IMDb URL and use the trailer links there. From what I've seen so far, if there's nothing acceptable, it would seem a good idea to forget about looking further. The quality varies, but I'm not finding anything better on YouTube. And the huge advantage is that whatever they do have are valid trailers for the movie in question. It's taking me about a minute per movie to choose, download and add a trailer to the File path.
--- Quote ---...isn't it better to spend that time on watching movie itself?
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You could ask the same question about everything we're doing. ;)
Hyomil:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on August 13, 2010, 10:23:19 pm ---The problem with finding trailers is not ambiguity in the title (although that has to be dealt with as well), it's that they all get buried in the crap posted by users.
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Here's a few more sites dedicated to trailers I've got in a search group in the Web Search Pro addon, though I haven't done many searches with them yet: http://www.movie-list.com/index.php, http://www.comingsoon.net/trailers/, http://trailers.apple.com/, http://www.alltrailers.net/. Should be lots of HD trailers for newer movies.
I usually use Web Search Pro rather than PVD since you can't use the Title instead of the Original Title for searches. For Youtube, I use:
Youtube Trailers - "trailer"
--- Code: ---http://www.youtube.com/results?sourceid=captaincaveman&aq=f&search_query={searchTerms}+trailer
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YouTube Trailers for anime - "amv" OR "pv" OR "trailer" OR "op" OR "opening"
--- Code: ---http://www.youtube.com/results?sourceid=captaincaveman&aq=f&search_query={searchTerms}+amv+OR+pv+OR+trailer+OR+op+OR+opening
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Doesn't include the year, but I haven't found that helps very often.
--- Quote ---My personal experimenting isn't over, but it seems the most efficient way to get trailers is to simply use the IMDb URL and use the trailer links there.
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IMDb used to hardly have any trailers, but it looks like they're getting better, though it still says BETA when you click on the link to the videos section. I didn't realize one of the choices under the Update button was for adding trailers, but I just did that for a movie and I'll see if it gets added. Took over 3 weeks to be added last time when I added a TV series.
Hyomil:
--- Quote from: buah on August 13, 2010, 09:53:47 pm ---I must admit that I avoid to watch trailers, in order not to be mislead.
Now when I think of it, considering the time to find reviews and trailers for a certain movie, then to read and watch 'em, isn't it better to spend that time on watching movie itself? You'll spend less time to start watching it, and to stop if you don't like it, then for what I wrote in previous sentence. And I'm talking here about movies you already have in your collection.
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??? Trailers are sort of meant to be misleading so as not to be spoilers; they don't spell much out, just give an idea of the general tone of the movie and the acting. They don't often "mislead" about those.
For movies you've already seen, watching a trailer is a refresher of what the movie was like. For movies you haven't seen, I've found trailers are an excellent way to quickly rule movies out. I rarely dislike a trailer, then end up seeing the movie and like it. I've gotten so once I've marked a movie Not Interested based on the trailer I'm very resistant to seeing it. Sometimes I'll be undecided after seeing a trailer and mark the movie Maybe, in which case I may see it if other people recommend it. If I like the trailer, I'm likely to watch the movie without further research, though its best to read reviews or at least check some statistics. If there is no trailer at all, I'm reluctant to try something, even after reading reviews.
And watching trailers does save time: 3 minutes of time taken, say, versus having to find a movie download/rent/buy it and watch, say, at least 15 minutes of it to decide if you like it.
mgpw4me@yahoo.com:
--- Quote ---For movies you've already seen, watching a trailer is a refresher of what the movie was like. For movies you haven't seen, I've found trailers are an excellent way to quickly rule movies out. I rarely dislike a trailer, then end up seeing the movie and like it.
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Sounds reasonable. Wish I'd thought of that. I've always avoided trailers because they always (?) show the best parts of the movie in quick succession as if the whole movie would be that way. I guess that's the misleading part.
I usually go straight to reviews, then add the movies to my database with a marker (in my case the 'seen' checkbox is cleared so it's highlighted...if I didn't like / keep the movie). This way, I keep track of what I don't want to see and what I "own" (ownership is maybe a bad word if you didn't buy it). Regardless, this usually keeps me from being mislead twice...another benefit to having a movie database.
I took a quick look at some of the trailer sites and a couple look promising...fairly quick and the video links aren't hidden.
There is an issue with the large number of links for some movies...interviews, various codecs / sizes / operating systems, making selection difficult. That means a selection dialog is necessary in any trailer script, which means that "silent mode" is not an option. You wouldn't be able to select all the movies in your database and expect to have the trailers in your database some hours later. You'd have to manually select each and every one.
It would still be a "kewl" feature.
kompjuta:
I agree with Hyomil.
I have added a text field where I put the link to the trailer file, which I keep on my hard disk. There are tons of sites with trailers, with variying quality. It takes a bit of trial and error to find good quality, but usually you can find decent quality, often even HD versions. You can use freecorder to record the trailers, as they are usually flash videos.
What I would like to see is a feature similar to the one for storing the file location for the movie files, but then for the trailer files, and of course a "play" button to launch the trailer in a player.
I don't like the idea of combining the full movie and the trailer when you hit the "play" button. I prefer to keep them apart.
Another feature request: I would like to see a tool to add an existing movie as an episode to a series. Drag & drop would be great... In fact I'm "abusing" the episode feature to group sequels together (like Ice Age, Toy Story, Hellraiser, etc..). Is there a way to do this manually, by modifiying some "properties" of a movie record ?
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