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Reviving the Wiki
CAD:
As I have already said, I have had great success running a wiki in my work environment.
It is designed more as a web page with editable content.
I have thrown together a rough version usinging tikiwiki. (by no means professional but gives an indication of how it could work)
http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=UserPagecadishere
As nostra is administrator of wiki and PVD is his baby, i'll leave the decision up to him whether a wiki redesign is ok.
rick.ca:
--- Quote ---As nostra is administrator of wiki and PVD is his baby, i'll leave the decision up to him whether a wiki redesign is ok.
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That's not how a wiki is supposed to work. I'm also an administrator of the wiki, so I'll answer for nostra. If you have an idea for improving the wiki, go ahead and do it. It's administrators are not editors—users are the editors. That's what makes a wiki a wiki. If an administrator or another user doesn't like your changes, they can easily undo them or make their own changes.
It's the common assumption that a wiki is maintained by "someone else" that causes a wiki to fail. I believe my proposal for an Integrated Help Forum naturally overcomes the barrier this faulty assumption creates. Seeing a help topic being discussed and revised in very same thread in which it's being read makes it obvious it's user-created and maintained documentation.
patch:
--- Quote from: CAD on September 01, 2010, 02:01:30 pm ---I have thrown together a rough version usinging tikiwiki. (by no means professional but gives an indication of how it could work)
http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=UserPagecadishere
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imo the content of your home page is better than the existing one so I would be in favour of replacing it with yours. Well done.
CAD:
--- Quote ---imo the content of your home page is better than the existing one so I would be in favour of replacing it with yours. Well done.
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Thanks Patch.
I've asked rick for edit access to home page. if he gives me access I will modify it to be more like
http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=UserPagecadishere
(hopefully better) ;D
--- Quote ---That's not how a wiki is supposed to work.
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It doesn't have to be something that is super dynamic and content changes a lot.
My experience is that the pages are fairly static (especially how it is used now).
I would think that if it was laid out nicely and had a few simple "how to do stuff" guides that are clear and concise.
New users could go there and have a "getting started guide". Anything more complex would be through the forums.
--- Quote ---It's the common assumption that a wiki is maintained by "someone else" that causes a wiki to fail.
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This may true, but there is no indication that it has failed. Is there a hit counter on the wiki? Maybe users go there read the content and it is enough for them to do what they want to. Just because it is not updated does not mean its not working. Probably the opposite. If it is getting hits, it probably means the content is good and doesn't need to be updated.
My experience is they fail because the design does not meet the needs of the users.
--- Quote ---I believe my proposal for an Integrated Help Forum naturally overcomes the barrier this faulty assumption creates.
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Maybe... there is no reason why they can't co-exist and complement each other in ways we haven't thought of.
patch:
--- Quote from: CAD on September 02, 2010, 08:09:53 am ---Is there a hit counter on the wiki? Maybe users go there read the content and it is enough for them to do what they want to. Just because it is not updated does not mean its not working. Probably the opposite. If it is getting hits, it probably means the content is good and doesn't need to be updated.
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There is a hit counter on each page see the page list
btw I quite like a table of contents which shows most of the available pages, the uniform hierarchy display as shown in the semi automatic contents is also good imo.
Not to say a linked contents could not also be used, I'm just not convinced I would like to use it yet.
Links from each PVD "menu option" / "menu bar option" straight to the relevant wiki page could be good though.
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