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AllMovie disappeared, Allrovi.com appeared!
minolotus:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on May 29, 2011, 02:32:50 am --- And since PVD could easily import MC sidecar data, MC would serve a front end for the Rovi data it would not otherwise have access to.
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Ok, right. I did not know that as I do not use sidecar files.
I just discovered that they have added some further information to the website: run time, release date and characteristics (http://gsfn.us/t/2aiez). The item mentioned last should comprise the former fields themes, moods and keywords. This is from my point of view not a really good idea. Characteristics may be useful to get a quick impression about a movie but as there will be a lot of different characteristics it will not be possible to use them as search or sorting criteria. Especially moods - together with genre - have been a really good combination to find movies I want to watch. I do not see that this could also be accomplished with characteristics.
Ivek23:
--- Quote ---AllRovi policy to end users, we feel that they just negligence, If users no longer use their site with movies and other data
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I just wanted to say that in AllRovi and their policy only see that they do not care
or not care about this, or users continued to be used their movies and other information or will users prefer to turn for information on similar pages.
darichman:
In relation to metadata lookup from JRMC, there are probably two points worth mentioning:
1) 5 or 6 few years ago an MC user generated a plugin to scrape music data from allmusic. This became quite popular was was pretty effective. After about a year allmusic send a cease and desist notification to the guy who developed the plugin and he pulled it (I know I would too)
2) Maybe 2 or 3 years ago, JimH mentioned they'd contacted the allmusic/allmovie people (I'm not sure if it was for music or movies) about implementing in MC. There wasn't a whole lot in the way of details, but the impression was that the asking price was a bit too high.
Personally, I'd love to see it. I'd pay a fair bit too :)
rick.ca:
Scraping is an interesting issue. I wouldn't have been surprised if they had objected to nostra's script. He accepts donations, so that might have been construed as an indirect commercial exploitation of their property. They had no basis for objecting to my script, however. It's just a modification of nostra's, but it's for my personal use. If they have some objection to how end users use their site, they can probably block those patterns of use, but they can't object to how users choose to access publicly available web pages.
End users are not Rovi customers. It seems small operations (like J. River) aren't either. Their customers are larger enterprises capable of generating enough revenue from the data to pay them well. They've also proven themselves rather inept in dealing with end users. While most appreciate the Allmovie and Allmusic sites for the richness of data, they were/are technological dinosaurs compared to other similar sites. The new AllRovi site isn't any better. It seems they don't have the expertise to do even basic things like build a search function that works, or the imagination to find creative ways to engage users. It makes me wonder if their real agenda is to create the demand that will attract a new customer—someone who knows how to create and run an effective website they can license the data to.
Ivek23:
I think it's really all in the same direction as the above mentioned Rick.ca.
I also see on their forum that they actually almost everything you might what they think and suggest users, since response is practically zeros or very slow, I also see in their post to their forum, because the last three or four post, I am waiting for a response for at least the day or more days.
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