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Ivek23:
Switch turns the idea to me, but I did not even find how to do this to the Characteristics additional import those word concepts in Attributes custom field, which were in AllMovie the Attributes category.
rick.ca:
There are only 8 values used, so it would be easy to test for them in Characteristics and if found save them in Attributes.
That might be possible for Moods as well. The following 41 values are used in my database. I wonder if that's all of them. Do you have the same list? (Check any record in edit mode.)
--- Code: ---A Good Cry
A World of Its Own
Abandon All Hope
Adrenaline Rush
Angsty
Bad Taste
Blood and Gore
Button Pushers
Carnal Knowledge
Comedy on the Edge
Estrogen Shot
Eyepoppers
Fantastic Reality
Flames of Passion
Food for Thought
For Love of Country
Gutbusters
Head Trips
High on Emotion
In a Minor Key
In the Mood for Love
Just for Fun
Just for Laughs
Memory Lane
Mindbenders
Mood Enhancers
Nail-biters
Off the Beaten Path
Only Human
Other Dimensions
Pick-Me-Ups
Slow Burn
Spellbinders
Strictly Speaking
Tough Guys
Trashy
Triumph of the Geeks
Triumph of the Spirit
Uncomfortable Viewing
Unloveables
Young and Old Alike
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There are far too many terms to do the same thing with Themes—at least with the scripting methods I'm familiar with (*). If that were not the case, it would be possible to remove Attributes, Moods and Themes, and then the remaining terms in Characteristics would all be Keywords. 8)
* From it's description in the manual, it sounds like a list could be read into an array using ExplodeString(), but I have no idea how the array might be used in a processing loop (that would search Characteristics for every item in the array).
Ivek23:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on July 26, 2011, 08:10:30 am ---That might be possible for Moods as well. The following 41 values are used in my database. I wonder if that's all of them. Do you have the same list? (Check any record in edit mode.)
--- Code: ---A Good Cry
A World of Its Own
Abandon All Hope
Adrenaline Rush
Angsty
Bad Taste
Blood and Gore
Button Pushers
Carnal Knowledge
Comedy on the Edge
Estrogen Shot
Eyepoppers
Fantastic Reality
Flames of Passion
Food for Thought
For Love of Country
Gutbusters
Head Trips
High on Emotion
In a Minor Key
In the Mood for Love
Just for Fun
Just for Laughs
Memory Lane
Mindbenders
Mood Enhancers
Nail-biters
Off the Beaten Path
Only Human
Other Dimensions
Pick-Me-Ups
Slow Burn
Spellbinders
Strictly Speaking
Tough Guys
Trashy
Triumph of the Geeks
Triumph of the Spirit
Uncomfortable Viewing
Unloveables
Young and Old Alike
--- End code ---
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--- Code: ---A Good Cry
A World of Its Own
Abandon All Hope
Adrenaline Rush
Angsty
Blood and Gore
Comedy on the Edge
Estrogen Shot
Eyepoppers
Fantastic Reality
Flames of Passion
Food for Thought
For Love of Country
Gutbusters
Head Trips
In a Minor Key
In the Mood for Love
Just for Fun
Memory Lane
Nail-biters
Off the Beaten Path
Only Human
Other Dimensions
Pick-Me-Ups
Slow Burn
Spellbinders
Strictly Speaking
Tough Guys
Trashy
Triumph of the Geeks
Triumph of the Spirit
Young and Old Alike
--- End code ---
The same list, but only 32 values on the list because I have a small list of movie in the database.
minolotus:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on July 25, 2011, 10:46:47 pm ---That is the sort of suggestion I was fishing for, but it doesn't look like those links will help. They'll only play in the Flash player used by the website. But, no great loss—they're not of very good quality.
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Yes, you are right. However, my main issue to suggest this was to keep you busy ;D
--- Quote from: rick.ca on July 26, 2011, 08:10:30 am ---That might be possible for Moods as well. The following 41 values are used in my database. I wonder if that's all of them. Do you have the same list? (Check any record in edit mode.)
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I have as additional item "button pushers" (e.g. Four Lions, Network).
--- Quote ---If that were not the case, it would be possible to remove Attributes, Moods and Themes, and then the remaining terms in Characteristics would all be Keywords.
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Even if I like the idea to get these fields back, I am not sure if this will work very well as we don't know if they keep these lists for movies release in the future. If they, for example, decide to kick "Tough Guys" from the moods list and replace it by "Very tough guys", we wouldn’t recognise that change. This may cause a slowly progressing data mess-up. An older movie would have as mood "tough guys" but a similar movie recently released would have an entry under characteristics "very tough guys". Sooner or later we will have to ask ourselves how reliable these lists are.
(I think the attributes are an exception as it should be possible to check also in the future if they use these for movies released in the future).
rick.ca:
--- Quote ---Sooner or later we will have to ask ourselves how reliable these lists are.
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Yes, I suppose wishful thinking caused me to contradict my previous conclusion...
--- Quote from: rick.ca on July 11, 2011, 02:45:49 am ---Yes, it's almost impossible to figure out what they're doing with "Characteristics," which, of course, is a big part of the problem. Not only does it not work as a "mashup," they're not doing whatever they're doing with any discernible consistency. Attached is my effort to figure it out. I can see some patterns, but my conclusion is there is very good reason why it's useless. More disturbingly, it appears they may be dropping some data elements (Moods and Keywords) entirely. If that's the case, I have little hope any of this data will be restored to it's previous form. :(
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I think the result would be even worse than you imagine. Those who have used AllMovie in the past will already have Moods, Themes and Keywords. If these haven't been added to Characteristics exactly as they were (or not at all), then even a perfect attempt to extract them will produce a different result. Unless overwrite settings are such that data is only added to empty fields, this would result in overwriting good data with bad. And even then, the new data would be inconsistent with that previously saved for other movies.
The only "safe" way to break Characteristics into it's components would be to use different fields than those previously used by AllMovie scripts. I'm sure no one would want such a cluttered database. Those who have never used AllMovie scripts are unaffected, but they also have less reason to care about breaking-down Characteristics. Maybe an alternative that would partially serve both interests would be to reformat Characteristics so it included subheadings for each of the data types. The result, saved in a memo field, would make a lot more sense than it's existing form.
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