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Ivek23:
Maybe I should be yet another moderator that would help in cleaning spam posts and spam user accounts.
rick.ca:
We may need to make all three active users moderators. ;D
rick.ca:
These numbers tell an interesting story...
March March Sept 2010 2011 2011New accounts 1003073,347Deleted-5-198-2,153Remaining951091,194No activity-65-89-1,190Used30204Lurkers-17-17 ? - unknown—included in "no activity"Posters1334
If the creation of spam accounts cannot be controlled, then there is no practical means by which we can identify and delete them. This is why I suggested simply deleting all accounts for which there were no posts (spam posts would already be deleted, so the accounts from which they were posted would have no posts). Doing so, however, would also delete the legitimate accounts of "lurkers"—real people who have gone to the trouble to register, but have not yet had occasion to post. These accounts, however, can be identified as those having a Last Active date greater than their Date Registered. Spammers do not browse and leave. When they return after registering, it's to post spam. At the same time, real people do not go to the trouble to register and then never return. If they do return after 30 days, it's unlikely they would even remember registering the first time. Besides, the numbers prove the vast majority of these inactive accounts were created by spammers anyway.
So if spam accounts cannot be prevented, this is what I suggest:
* Clean-up the existing accounts by deleting all those for which there has been no activity since registration.
* Moderators delete spam and the accounts that post them as they are posted.
* Periodically (but at least monthly) delete accounts
* that can be identified as spam by their links and contact info.
* created more than 30 days prior for which there has been no activity since registration.
I don't know if moderators can be given the permissions required to do the deletions of steps 1 and 3. This post (from the SMF 1.x support board) suggests how those can be done.
--- Quote from: JimM on January 23, 2011, 10:39:14 pm ---The only other way might be to make sure you have moderation checkboxes selected in your profile and then set your page length to a large number. Go to the memberlist from the Admin area and click on Last Online until the sort is showing the oldest date. Click the checkboxes of the ones you want to delete, depending on the page size you set, you can click the box at the top of the page to select all the members on the page. The select the action at the bottom of the page.
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Ivek23:
--- Quote from: rick.ca on October 02, 2011, 01:13:15 am ---These numbers tell an interesting story...
March March Sept 2010 2011 2011New accounts 1003073,347Deleted-5-198-2,153Remaining951091,194No activity-65-89-1,190Used30204Lurkers-17-17 ? - unknown—included in "no activity"Posters1334
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Very interesting and alarming statistics.
--- Quote from: rick.ca on October 02, 2011, 01:13:15 am ---So if spam accounts cannot be prevented, this is what I suggest:
* Clean-up the existing accounts by deleting all those for which there has been no activity since registration.
* Moderators delete spam and the accounts that post them as they are posted.
* Periodically (but at least monthly) delete accounts
* that can be identified as spam by their links and contact info.
* created more than 30 days prior for which there has been no activity since registration.
I don't know if moderators can be given the permissions required to do the deletions of steps 1 and 3.
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Exactly should be done.
It would be necessary to delete all user accounts, which have never been active (Last active: Never). Now it is around 5900 or more accounts, after all deletions (cleaning) accounts then it would be user accounts and user only between 1000 and 2000, which would be a real number of users of this forum.
Ivek23:
I disagree completely with this,
--- Quote from: nostra on September 27, 2011, 02:15:09 am ---There is no point in creating an account and not posting anything, but I assume people could register to become a "better" part of the community or they could have planned to post some time later...
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but more on that here.
--- Quote from: rick.ca on October 02, 2011, 01:13:15 am --- At the same time, real people do not go to the trouble to register and then never return. If they do return after 30 days, it's unlikely they would even remember registering the first time.
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There are many such users, when registered, then not more active.
--- Quote from: Ivek23 on September 29, 2011, 07:52:24 pm ---Maybe I should be yet another moderator that would help in cleaning spam posts and spam user accounts.
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--- Quote from: rick.ca on September 29, 2011, 10:40:54 pm ---We may need to make all three active users moderators. ;D
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If I had moderator status, established a permit or authorization to edit (delete) user accounts and posts, would be happy to assist in the regulation of the current mess on the forum.
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