Personal Video Database
English => Feature Suggestions => Topic started by: kri kri on October 08, 2008, 05:38:39 pm
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Saw this new site on the XBMC forums.
http://www.themoviedb.org/
Looks like they have an API - might be a good place to pull covers and posters from.
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Thanks, looks good. I'll write a plugin for this resource when some free time will be available.
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In the meantime, consider adding http://www.themoviedb.org/search?search[text]=%s%u to Web search.
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Hey guys,
Just thought I'd mention our API was officially launched last week. You can read all about it here: http://api.themoviedb.org/2.0/docs/
Cheers,
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Thx, I'll take a look at it.
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Any word on getting this added to the plugins? :)
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A plugin will be available as soon as I have time for it. I hope soon.
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A plugin will be available as soon as I have time for it. I hope soon.
Thanks you are the best.
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Any word on this? Since IMPawards this would be the best site to use, I think. :)
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I suppose the fact this site provides an API makes it easier to write a plugin, but it doesn't look like it yet has much to offer. It seems you can only count on entries for popular movies. Many of those don't have posters. For those that do, the poster size is inconsistent, and usually larger than an ideal size for use with PVD. Those interested in nice screenshots and high resolution posters should add a Web search for this site, but I don't think a plugin or script is warranted.
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I think this site has matured a bit since it released. If someone would write a web search for it that would be great.
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Websearch:
Movies: http://themoviedb.org/search/movies?search[text]=%s%u
People: http://themoviedb.org/search/people?search[text]=%s%u
Both: http://themoviedb.org/search?search[text]=%s%u
The /movies or /people part takes you directly to the Movie or People results page, rather than the catch-all "Popular Results" page.
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The popularity and content of this sight seem to be continuing to improve, so I'm renewing the plea for a plugin.
Personally, I would prefer it to use the Movie.imdbLookup (http://api.themoviedb.org/2.1/methods/Movie.imdbLookup) API method. I would only use it in addition to the IMDb, so an independent search by name wouldn't be of much use. Also, I'd be happy if whatever posters and fan art are available are simply added to existing posters and screen shots. There's not too many of them, and the quality is consistent enough, it seems pointless to screen them. If this is the way it worked it would consistently find and download anything available for any particular movie—without any user intervention.
Ideally, a plugin should be flexible/configurable, but maybe it would be much easier to code this way. :-\
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Ok, I'll create a plugin for 0.9.9.15 release
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Thanks!
BTW, Media Center is developing to a point where users are likely to be demanding fan art of the the type provided by TheMovieDb (for use in it's Theatre View). PvdImport does not yet handle screenshots, as MC currently only uses one "cover art" image per media file. But I expect that will change soon. If fan art images catch on, it will probably become necessary to distinguish them from screen shots in the database.
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Sounds like custom image fields...
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That would do it! ;)
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Thank you for the support! :D
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Custom image field...(drool). With captions? And a list or table format display option?
Right now I use screen shots for capturing portraits of the cast members and ignore action sequences. This is faster than finding a good action image, and gives me a better representation of the movie than using the automated screen shot maker.
The problem is that I'd like to put names with the images, and (holding my breath) using the same image for the cast member "person page" rather than loading the same image twice (breathing out, slowwwwly).
Of course enhancements to the screen shots would work just as well for me. Someday, I'd like to end up with is a movie page with portraits of the cast (where I have them) in place of the less interesting text links. I'm sure this could be done through an html export, but the more I can do in one place, the better.
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It hardly seems right to call the screen shot maker "automatic" when it won't do intelligent face tagging (which, of course, includes taking shot only of recognized faces). But don't hold your breath. ;)
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Face recognition software continues to improve. Been to an airport lately? ;D
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Ok, I'll create a plugin for 0.9.9.15 release
Any word on the plugin? ;D
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I did not have time for the plugin, sorry. I am having a couple of problems with my main PC. When my workstation will work as it should I will get back to work.
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Websearch:
Movies: http://themoviedb.org/search/movies?search[text]=%s%u
People: http://themoviedb.org/search/people?search[text]=%s%u
Both: http://themoviedb.org/search?search[text]=%s%u
The /movies or /people part takes you directly to the Movie or People results page, rather than the catch-all "Popular Results" page.
This doesn't work anymore, any updates on a plugin? :)
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I will release the first version next week, stay tuned.
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Just uploaded the new TheMovieDB.org plugin. Enjoy ;)
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Thanks!
It would be nice if there could be some options in the handling of posters. It currently downloads all posters, replacing any existing ones. I would find it more useful if the poster(s) were added to any existing ones, and if I could restrict the download to one poster (which, I assume, would be the one displayed on the movie page).
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Thanks!
It would be nice if there could be some options in the handling of posters. It currently downloads all posters, replacing any existing ones. I would find it more useful if the poster(s) were added to any existing ones, and if I could restrict the download to one poster (which, I assume, would be the one displayed on the movie page).
I agree,
good work though thanks Nostra!
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There is no such possibility for scripts or plugins to add images. They only can write if clear/overwrite/ignore (same as with all other fields)
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There is no such possibility for scripts or plugins to add images.
The poster plugins, of course, will add images. So it's not so bad if this one is used first (which will replace any existing posters), and then poster plugins can be used to add more (or add back what was replaced).
So many posters! Now I have to use an imagelist to keep track of them all. ::)
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So many posters! Now I have to use an imagelist to keep track of them all.
rick.ca
Can I ask which here how has added a poster Imagelist or code for a poster and Imagelist.
I tried to add in the skin code to Imagelist under the poster as shown on your picture but without any successfully.
My screen resolution is 800x600
Thanks for the reply.
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From poster to imagelist...
<row>
<column>
<poster autosize="true" stretch="true"/>
</column>
</row>
<row>
<column halign="left" imgctrlcol="true" width="50">
<prevposterbtn/>
<nextposterbtn/>
<addposterbtn/>
</column>
<column>
<imagelist valign="top" halign="left" cheight="100" cwidth="75" autosize="true" space="10">
<border shape="none"/>
<color>$CCDDEE</color>
</imagelist>
</column>
</row>
In an 800x600 screen, you may want to use smaller thumbnails. This column is 450 pixels wide. However, they will wrap to multiple rows.
BTW, note I've omitted the poster counter. That was to save space, and because it's not really necessary when all the posters are visible. But it was also behaving strangely—just about always displaying things like "4 of 3."
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Thank you very much for this rick.ca this will add to the skin and tested.
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I have tested, works better in full screen than normal screen, even better acting in a higher screen resolution than 800x600 screen resolution, so I'll stick with this variant as mentioned rick.ca this
...,and because it's not really necessary when all the posters are visible.
is absolutely right about this.
However, thanks for this again.
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Ivek23 asked me to create a plain delphi .psf script for TMDb - so here it is (attachment).
It basically does the same as the other script but should be easier to customize (no need to compile).
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I wonder how the MPAA, orating, rdate and Status
added in the custom field.
I don't quite understand what you mean.
I use the AddFieldValueXML function and the fields according to this: http://www.videodb.info/help/hlp_scripting.html#fields
So no custom fields - just the standard ones.
Yeah, I know that there is no custom fields. Would be nice to have them, since certain info data different than IMDB info data.
Examples for the MPAA or rdata, how can to is data info added in the custom field:
procedure ParseMovie(HTML: string);
var
Released, MPAA, Mstatus: string;
Runtime: Integer;
DateParts: TWideArray;
begin
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Released := HTMLValue(HTML, 0, 0, '<released>', '</released>');
if Released <> '' then
begin
ExplodeString(Released, DateParts, '-');
Released := DateParts[2] +'.'+ DateParts[1] +'.'+ DateParts[0];
LogMessage('rdate: '+ Released);
AddFieldValueXML('rdate', Released);
AddCustomFieldValueByName('Release Info', Released);
end else
LogMessage('rdate not found');
MPAA := HTMLValue(HTML, 0, 0, '<certification>', '</certification>');
if MPAA <> '' then
begin
MPAA := MPAA;
LogMessage('mpaa: '+ MPAA);
AddCustomFieldValueByName('MovieDB rate', MPAA);
end else
LogMessage('mpaa not found');
I can not find any solution for it Status (http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5176), I tried with this part code, Mstatus := HTMLValue(HTML, 0, 0, '<status>', '</status>');
if Mstatus <> '' then
begin
Mstatus := Mstatus;
LogMessage('status: '+ Mstatus);
AddCustomFieldValueByName('Status', Mstatus);
end else
LogMessage('status not found'); but it does not work. Is there a solution to this problem.
BTW:
Other corrections are in order, properly transmit the data. However, in
aka data only one alternative address out there on the web site is usually a number of alternative titles. In Cast data not transmit data only for players, but also as Crew information for art, camera, etc.
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Ivek23 asked me to create a plain delphi .psf script for TMDb - so here it is (attachment).
It basically does the same as the other script but should be easier to customize (no need to compile).
Nice, this could be cloned and turned into a poster script then (from another thread discussion), along with download all/first.
I saw TheMovieDB got posters associated with language, i would probably modify it to get the first poster but from the movie original country (if available).
It doesn't seem possible to add configuration options on scripts, is it?
Also i read in the script that "//note that loading more than one poster is broken in PVD 1.0.2.3 Beta". Is it still the case? (most probably yes, as 1.0.2.3 is actually the latest available version)
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I can not find any solution for it Status (http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/5176), I tried with this part code,
The script uses the API - see here: http://api.themoviedb.org/2.1/
It looks like the status is just not transmitted but i think theres not much usefull information in it anyway.
A release date in the future usually indicates "not released" :P
aka data only one alternative address out there on the web site is usually a number of alternative titles.
The aka title filled at the moment is the english alternative name - whereas the aka on the homepage are the translated names.
In Cast data not transmit data only for players, but also as Crew information for art, camera, etc.
This is a bit difficult. PVD supports the following person types: actor, director, writer, composer, producer
TMDb groups the crew into departments and jobs.
Departments are (the ones i found): Actors, Directing, Writing, Sound, Production, Art, Camera, Editing, Costume+Make-Up, Crew
The list of jobs is pretty large - i don't really want to deal with them :P
What the script does atm is putting the department actors into actor, directing into director, writing into writer, sound into composer (this is already an ugly match) and production into producer (not perfect because production contains stuff like casting etc).
The other departments aren't handled at all - i could add them to a custom field if you like.
It doesn't seem possible to add configuration options on scripts, is it?
No only plugins are configurable :(
Also i read in the script that "//note that loading more than one poster is broken in PVD 1.0.2.3 Beta". Is it still the case? (most probably yes, as 1.0.2.3 is actually the latest available version)
Have a look at this: http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php/topic,3229.0.html
I haven't found another way to download multiple posters in a script :(
Also (as you may have noticed from the source) adding more than one url doesn't seem to work - neither on 0.9.9.21 nor on 1.0.2.3
Another issue i had is preventing PVD from downloading the webpage URL which i don't care about because i only use the API.
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In Cast data not transmit data only for players, but also as Crew information for art, camera, etc.
This is a bit difficult. PVD supports the following person types: actor, director, writer, composer, producer
TMDb groups the crew into departments and jobs.
Departments are (the ones i found): Actors, Directing, Writing, Sound, Production, Art, Camera, Editing, Costume+Make-Up, Crew
The list of jobs is pretty large - i don't really want to deal with them :P
What the script does atm is putting the department actors into actor, directing into director, writing into writer, sound into composer (this is already an ugly match) and production into producer (not perfect because production contains stuff like casting etc).
The other departments aren't handled at all - i could add them to a custom field if you like.
Yes, please other info in a custom field,but for this type of script I can not write new pieces of code or I do not know how writing a new script (I'm not a computer programmer, just an amateur self-taught, so I asked for help).
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation.
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Ivek23 asked me to create a plain delphi .psf script for TMDb - so here it is (attachment).
It basically does the same as the other script but should be easier to customize (no need to compile).
Thanks for taking this on. This might be a good way of lightening nostra's burden in keeping things up-to-date. I haven't yet had a chance to test your script thoroughly, but I thought I'd throw out a few comments anyway... [Oops. It ended up kinda long-winded. :-[ ]
I'm not sure there's any disadvantages to a script vs. a plugin. They seem to run just as well, and have the advantage of being easily user-modified. That's particularly helpful for things like enabling/disabling specific functions and saving data in custom fields (or even in different standard fields). These modifications are also easy for anyone to do to a well-documented script. It also allows those will a little understanding of the scripting language to do things like modify or format data before it's saved. Although a script doesn't allow runtime options, many 'options' that might be sought can be handled just by using different modifications of the same script. It's arguably easier just to run the script that's modified to do exactly what you want than it is to start a plugin then have to choose an option from a prompt.
The point of this observation is the idea such a script will be most useful to users generally if it gets whatever data is available and offers to save it somewhere—if not an obvious standard field, then an arbitrarily named custom field the user may modify as appropriate and add to their database. The most difficult part for us amateurs is figuring out how to get the data. If that's done, most of us can deal with what to do with it. And some of us will even customize it further to modify and combine the data before saving it—something simply not possible with a plugin. Using this approach also relieves the author of having to respond to inevitable requests to add whatever scrap of data is offered by the source.
I'm not even sure what you've done, so forgive me if the script already includes everything offered by the API (which, I suppose, isn't necessarily everything appearing at the website). But some of my comments apply to the question of what to do with 'people data'. The first consideration here should be that combining this data from that of a different source messes up the integrity of both. The logical choice for most of us is to rely on the IMDb as a primary source for people data. A secondary source should only be used in a 'do not overwrite' mode so it's only used as a secondary source. Even that runs the risk of being run first and thereby fouling the data that should have come from the primary source.
So the best way to handle this is to offer the option of adding the data that 'fits' the standard fields—primarily for those who want to use this as the primary source. And I think what you've done with what's offered by the API is the best you can do. For those already using IMDb as a primary source, the interest is likely in (1) confirmation our IMDb data is good, and (2) capturing any additional data available (e.g., production crew). That can be done by dumping it into one memo field with any role/job function data. The names can be put in links if that information is available. If the data is easily separated (e.g., into cast and crew), it can be put in different fields. If all this can be done, it offers a full range of choices to users: use the script as a primary source, as a secondary source used only where no data is available from the primary source, and/or as a supplementary source where all the data is added to separate fields.
One thing I did notice, but I'm still not sure about, is how it's determining which poster to get. Sometimes it seemed to be the default poster. In other cases, it seemed to be ignoring all posters classified by language (and the default, at least for English movies, is most often 'English') and choosing from those classified a 'other' (often a bad choice). Does the API offer a way to select the default poster, or one classified by the same language as the user language? (I have a simple self-interest in this one. All I want from TMDb is one good poster and it's 'Overview' which I appreciate as a short synopsis.)
Another issue i had is preventing PVD from downloading the webpage URL which i don't care about because i only use the API.
The URL doesn't hurt, and can be used to get to the website, should the need arise. For me, that's usually to see what other posters are available.
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Thanks for the explanation of how the scripts/plugins are actually used - helps a lot when thinking about where to fill what data.
I will try to add a few "extension points" to the script so people can easily change the script behaviour (especially which data is put in where).
Now on to the other questions i found in your post: 8)
I'm not sure there's any disadvantages to a script vs. a plugin.
You can make broader use of the programming language in a plugin.
e.g. the TMDb plugin probably uses some kind of xml parser.
If i were to write a plugin for TMDb i would actually add a JSON parsing unit (e.g. http://sourceforge.net/projects/is-webstart/) and switch to the 3.0 API of TMDb.
This should improve performance and most likely there are some nice new features in the 3.0 API.
Does the API offer a way to select the default poster, or one classified by the same language as the user language?
Unfortunately all you get is a list of images grouped into posters and backdrops. Each image is available in 6 sizes and just has an id, width and height.
It is possible to search by language but most often there are more than 20 posters just in english (the plugin actually only downloads the english ones i think).
Another issue i had is preventing PVD from downloading the webpage URL which i don't care about because i only use the API.
The URL doesn't hurt, and can be used to get to the website, should the need arise. For me, that's usually to see what other posters are available.
No thats ok but the problem is that after returning the search results and the right movie is selected (automatically or by the user), PVD starts downloading (!) the URL i added to the selected result which of course is the webpage and not the api page of the movie (damn i suck at explaining stuff in english ^^).
I then receive the html content of this page in the ParsePage function which i have no use for - in this case i just make a redirection to the movies api page.
No big issue just a bit of overhead ;)
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A small correction in the original language:
for this display of 'en' is now in the 'English'.
They are also examples of how to add info in the custom field.
Original script is here. (http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php/topic,1030.msg15869.html#msg15869)
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Does the API offer a way to select the default poster, or one classified by the same language as the user language?
Unfortunately all you get is a list of images grouped into posters and backdrops. Each image is available in 6 sizes and just has an id, width and height.
It is possible to search by language but most often there are more than 20 posters just in english (the plugin actually only downloads the english ones i think).
I think not only in English, but if it is there on the web pages displayed 10 posters by plugin transferred all 10 - verified.
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Ivek23 asked me to create a plain delphi .psf script for TMDb - so here it is (attachment).
It basically does the same as the other script but should be easier to customize (no need to compile).
A small correction in the original language:
for this display of 'en' is now in the 'English'.
They are also examples of how to add info in the custom field.
Original script is here. (http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php/topic,1030.msg15869.html#msg15869)
Notice:
Since the 20 September the two scripts no work anymore (unfortunately).
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I'd love to give the MovieDB plugin a look to see if I can update it. Where is the source for the tmdb script? I just see the dll available.
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I'd love to give the MovieDB plugin a look to see if I can update it. Where is the source for the tmdb script? I just see the dll available.
Original script is find here. (http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php/topic,1030.msg15869.html#msg15869)
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Is there any chance anyone knows of a JSON parser for pascal? I found this: https://github.com/koldev/JsonParser, but I'm not quite sure how to get that to work in the PVD environment (if it is at all possible). Without the JSON parser I think we can consider TMDB dead in the water :-/
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You do not really need a special parser for JSON. It is totally enough to use standard text operations like Pos(), SubStr(), Copy(), Delete().
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Hi nostra,
Is there any hope TMDB plugin will be updated please.
As Ivek23 says it stopped working on 20 September.
I think TMDB have new API, maybe plugin needs to be updated to take advantage of this?
Any news would be great.
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TheMovieDB plugin already works, but has some disadvantages:
1. There is no link for "Click here to open the download page in browser" (see "No link for 'Click here to open the download page in browser' "), which opens the url link to the web page as shown in " Link for 'Click here to open the download page in browser' ".
2. In some movies do not even transferred poster of the film, on the web site of movie posters definitely are shown (verified with my own simple TheMovieDB.org script).
http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/226269
3. Incorrect display the results of series. For example, a series Little House on the Prairie:
Shown is the result of Little House on the Prairie (1985) (http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/39014) (see sshot-14), correct result however, is Little House on the Prairie (1974) (http://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1781-little-house-on-the-prairie) (see sshot-15).
4. It has already been mentioned with regard rating already in Moviedb problem topic (http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php/topic,1977.msg11359.html#msg11359).
That's what I've found so far.
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I have a proposal to download a movie poster:
There might be a way that each user to select and set the option for the movie poster, then by the plugin also actually transfer.
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Uploaded another update for TMDB - 0.1.1.1. Hope I have fixed everything you have mentioned. Poster selection would be a little tricky, so I have not implemented it yet and the plugin does not download episode list.
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Uploaded another update for TMDB - 0.1.1.1. Hope I have fixed everything you have mentioned.
Yes, it's all what has been mentioned. Thank you very much, Nostra.
Poster selection would be a little tricky, so I have not implemented it yet ...
We are waiting for the result ...
... and the plugin does not download episode list.
There is no need at all after transfer episode list and this not necessary to add in the plugin.
And finally, now it's practically present the final version of the plugin that great and functioning properly. Thanks again.
Here is a little tip for users:
When transmitting information in the search results only confirm that result which is consistent with the title of the movie, for which is currently being sought for information and you will then also downloaded information. Otherwise, you can sneak a small inconvenience and this occurs that you overwrite the information for a similar movie which you already have in Databases, is verified.
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I have just tested TheMovieDB.org plugin. It seem to work good except for the language setting. Whatever language I choose in the configuration of the plugin, the info(e.g. description) come in english. I have checked on Themoviedb web site to be sure the infos were existing in those differents languages... and the infos exist.
Thank you for your help.
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I will take a look at this asap
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Language should work as expected in 0.1.1.2. The plugin also uses PVD UI Language if "Default" language is selected. Added an option to only download the main poster.
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Language should work as expected in 0.1.1.2. The plugin also uses PVD UI Language if "Default" language is selected. Added an option to only download the main poster.
Thank you for that, is great, perfect, everything is working properly at the PVD 1x versions, but not in 0.9.9.21 version.
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Try 0.1.1.3 I just uploaded. It should work properly with 0.9.x as well.
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Try 0.1.1.3 I just uploaded. It should work properly with 0.9.x as well.
Yeah, it's fine even when using v0.9.9.21, thanks Nostra.