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Support / Re: Scanning ISO-Files
« on: October 29, 2010, 12:36:19 am »
Seems mediainfo.dll no longer supports does not iso, img etc containers:

Found this:
Note: Disc images are not supported using MediaInfo.dll so meta data will not be scanned for file types such as iso, img, bin, etc. using the version that's included in the Extras packages. v0.7.11 of the dll does scan disc images for meta data, but it is more than likely incorrect (a "false-positive", as described by the developer of the MediaInfo library). If you would like to use it anyway, download one of the following and extract MediaInfo.dll from the archive into the Bin folder of your Ember installation (overwriting the current dll):

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=50348

Appears earlier versions (0.7.11) may support this.
Still investigating....

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Have checked mediainfo site - ISO is not supported it is on his TODO list though  ;)
More info on mediainfo site:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/forums/forum/297610

If you really need to have media info, best way would be to extract iso's and store them in Foldername/videos_ts folders.
Scanner will pick them up and populate video info.

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Approx. 250 of these files respectively the data sets in PVD contain video and audio stream details. And I didn't insert this details manually.
Maybe you had them as video_ts folders and later converted them to .ISO?

I have run a quick test and extracted movie into .iso directory and rescanned:
PVD picks up the media info from video_ts files and also updates the path:
U:\movie\Nine Miles Down (2009)\Nine_Miles_Down.iso|U:\movie\Nine Miles Down

I guess if .ISO is not there then path will only contain one entry:

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Support / Re: Scanning ISO-Files
« on: October 28, 2010, 02:13:02 pm »
ok - hope your right and it is an (easily fixed) oversight by Nostra.
I've only been started storing files as iso recently so happy to stand corrected :)

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Support / Re: Scanning ISO-Files
« on: October 28, 2010, 12:13:38 am »
Hi kirk02,

Has it ever?
I believe this is the default behaviour. ie PVD cannot read inside iso containers. (Maybe this can be a future enhancement).
It will read media information from extracted DVD's as per test2.jpg. ie if vob/ifo's exist (outside of iso) in your media directory.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: First suggestions - about Posters
« on: October 02, 2010, 03:16:53 pm »
Not exactly what you are asking but you can set up a custom web search in PVD, have a look at

http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=1432.0

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Support / Re: Import from IMDB Not Working
« on: September 19, 2010, 11:37:13 am »
Are logging into IMDB as a registered user?

Its a bit hardcore, you could try installing wireshark and see what's happening at TCP layer

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Talk / Re: censored
« on: September 08, 2010, 11:03:01 am »
What a load of bollocks.

the word "Rubbish" is venomous is it?

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usual pig headed attitude,
This can be backed up by fact in many posts, including ones that you have posted yourself.
You must be pretty thin skinned to be so deeply offended by this.

there was no temper involved and I only addressed issues you had raised

The rest of the section addresses what details in the post and in no way reflects on you.

Please post the personal message I replied back to you. There was nothing personal in it.
I asked you to review my original posts to see that there were no personal attacks in it.
And provide feedback regarding what constitutes a personal attack  so it could be avoided in the future.

Your response was a childish deleting of the message and then blocking further attempts at correspondence in a private setting.

How about leveling the playing field and providing others with moderator access so your rants and self indulgent posts can also moderated.

You could also put my post here in its entirety and let other decide if it was venomous or not

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Talk / censored
« on: September 08, 2010, 08:12:55 am »
I edited your last post to Reviving the Wiki to remove some of the venom and personal attack. Having to do so is annoying and draining. So, according to my usual practise, the need to do so again will result in your post being deleted.

When I asked for clarification on what I posted that was personal attack, so I could avoid having my posts censored

As promised...  ::)

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User 'rick.ca' has blocked your personal message.
you really are juvenile
How old are you - Really  ::)

Please explain what defines a personal attack/venom so all forum members can avoid having their posts censored.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 08, 2010, 03:30:37 am »
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how do you explain the relatively tiny number of logins and page edits?
People don't need to login and edit to read a manual. I would expect new users would not login as they would have no reason to.They would merely be reading content not participating.
Robots would hit the home page not sub pages. Stats indicate most hits are for the manual.

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The same theme that makes a board look and feel like a wiki works in both versions. The same level of integration cannot possibly be achieved using other software.
I have done it.

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If no one can be bothered updating a topic at the head of a discussion thread they're participating in, obviously they're not going to go the a different site
This is exactly point. They are not going to update the forum or the wiki someone needs to take ownership and do it.
This is why there is little activity on the wiki. People are lazy and want the answers given to them.

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What is your objection to new users getting exactly the same content right here?
The fact that they have to search and then wade through multiple threads to find the information they are looking for, or as more often the case, they post and ask the same questions that has been asked many times before. You usually point them to the relevant thread in the forum, where they have to wade through it to get the answers they require. I have had to do this when I was starting out and found it to be very frustrating. Having common answers in a manual would have been much easier.

Some examples of concerns with your idea:
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If they are "new users learning about..." then they're users, aren't they?
If they are "new users" who can't get help they will leave!

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From what i can see - the wiki was created to create place where new users go to get help on how to use PVD.
So what? That's why this forum was created too. So why are we trying to use two different tools at two different sites to serve the same purpose? Seems a bit nonsensical to me.
The forum is used to get clarification ask questions etc when something is unclear. The wiki is the starting point, the manual. It is like buying a tv. If you can't figure something out, The first thing you do is read the manual. You don't call the help line or start searching/posting on forums.

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So why are we trying to use two different tools at two different sites to serve the same purpose
They are different purposes. as already stated. "The wiki is the manual The forum is the help line."
 
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You only argued that a wiki is designed for maintaining documentation and therefore must be a superior solution
This is incorrect, I argued that the content of the wiki should be separated from the forum. For the reasons outlined above. I do not particularly care where it is stored. I do believe it should be formatted in a way that geared towards people who have never used PVD before and are looking for starting point.  

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Still circular. Because you think it should work this way, it should work this way. What is your objection to new users getting exactly the same content right here? If they have any question about the content, they can ask right in the applicable topic. If they want additional information, they might find valuable insights in other users' comments on the topic.
The wiki or any other CMS system is never going to replace the forums because they provide different functions.

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Repetition of a false premise is not helping your argument. It's only making obvious that it's build on a false premise.
You keep repeating this, but don't offer reasons why is it based on false premises other than it is your opinion that it is a false premise.

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Even after I repeatedly explained the merits (and, to be fair, even some of disadvantages and limitations) of the proposal, you refused to even acknowledge these points. The purpose of a forum is to discuss issues. To debate them, if necessary. You did not do this. You hijacked a topic,
??? - You posted your idea, presumably because you wanted comment on it, and now you are unhappy because people have commented on it and its not to your liking. You didn't address any of the concerns raised and proceeded to attack anyone who disagreed with you. You even moved the thread to a different topic - How can this be hijacking??

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Your argument that the needed information will be lost is based on your assumption users will not maintain the topic.
Please explain how it would work?
Would anyone be able to edit change the top level/Help topic?

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as the wiki already faces real threats to its continued existence. This was one of the reasons for me making the proposal—we may very well need an alternative.
This is a real concern, it would be a shame to loose such valuable content.
The data should be backed up so it can be reused in whatever medium Nostra decides to make use of.


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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 07, 2010, 12:34:20 pm »
The argument over which is better, wiki or forum is nonsensical. They perform different functions.
The forum is place to discuss PVD. The wiki is a place to store documentaion about PVD.
One is relatively dynamic, the other relatively static.

Version 2 of SMF appears to be forum software with CMS built in.
It is no different from what exists now except it is in one integrated software package.
It could just as easily be achieved with a WIKI or other form of CMS and using SMF APIs to achieve integration.

From what i can see - the wiki was created to create place where new users go to get help on how to use PVD. It was created as a way of creating a manual for PVD. This was done extremely well. The content is fantastic. The changes i have made with the wiki have been minimal and mostly around re-organising where pages live make access to them seem to be more of a manual.

Creating and maintaining documentation is always going to be difficult, no matter what system is used. It usually requires one or two people to own it.

I think documentation helps/how to etc needs to be separated from the forum otherwise they get lost amongst the discussion. New users are not going to wade through pages of discussion to get to the "how to content" and i can't see moderators moving the "good stuff" from the discussion to the top of the forum entry, so it is instantly accessible to those interested.

Here's how i think it should (and probably does) work. New users find PVD. Download and install, and then try and figure out how to use it.
They go to the wiki have a bit of a look around and then start asking questions in the forums if they can't work it out. Once they have a handle on the program they probably never go back to the wiki. Experience users come straight to the forum.

Given the power and with that , complexity, of PVD, I fear many users try PVD and drop it because it is too difficult. A decent manual (in whatever form) that is geared towards new users would go a long way to resolving this.

I can't see that the wiki is a failure given the no of hits it has received. I do see it as a failure in that it fails -"To provide assistance to new users" easily.

The wiki or any other CMS system is never going to replace the forums because they provide different functions.
The advantage of the forums is that they provide dynamic exchange of ideas. The advantage of the wiki (or other CMS) is it provides static and structured (and hopefully easy to find) content.

The way i see it, the wiki stores the content and the forums are where the content is created.

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Your basis for trashing my proposal
Rick - This is harsh. No one has trashed your idea. we have discussed its merits and potential pitfalls. This is what a forum is for.

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and most of your reasoning for supporting a separate wiki all seem to be based on this—your opinion.
It is more than opinion. I have extensive experience in operating a wiki. I researched and trialed many. The advantages of wiki style CMS, is that content can be easily restructured and reused, there are geared towards CMSs rather than forums, with the advantages highlighted above and they have a wide array of plugins to provide additional functions.

As i said before the two ideas / formats can coexist. For example - The forum method for creating and developing "how tos" and dynamic content and when they are stable copy and paste into the manual so "noobs" have easy access
 
 

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 05, 2010, 05:21:58 am »
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I would really like to get toc / structure functionality working
the TOC can be added at any time. what makes a toc work is a logical structure first.
Get the content in. lay it out so it makes sense and is easy to find. Build TOC.
any new content then gets added logically and TOC.

Search is good - i guess that will come as i come to grips with new wiki.
sphider is a good open source search engine.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 04, 2010, 03:29:25 pm »
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In an ideal world we could fully integrate the wiki and the forum.
ok - get it.

look and feel should be technical feasible.
Look is based on css of smf forum software. I don't know if this is subject to copyright etc.

i am happy to try and get it as good as it gets at this (early) stage.
for me content, in a an accessible, logical format comes first - bells and whistles second.
+ there is the learning curve of making it happen.

I think what i have done so far is a good start and should make it a bit easier for users to find stuff.
 

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 04, 2010, 08:45:04 am »
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want to clarify the likely future of the wiki with nostra before investing a lot of time in it.
This is a good point - I don't want to invest a lot of effort in this if it is going to be dumped
Nostra?  :)

I guess i have shown that there is potential outside of simple wiki.

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Where has everyone been looking to work out how to use "structures" which I think is what is behind the toc?
i really don't know enough about tikiwiki markup yet.

I know pmwiki well and  TOC / structures type stuff was really hard to get working well.
I ended up dropping it in favour of wikilinks. - one page links to another creating an index trail.
Im not sure if tikiwiki has this or some sort of equivalent.

i'll probably have install it locally to find out all its quirks, and then get rick or nostra to make admin changes or get them to grant me admin privileges if i needed.

Headers etc are good. was planning to groovy every thing up a bit as i figure out how :)

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The integration will be limited by having to maintain 2 logins and associated profiles however imo it could be a step in the right direction.
I don't understand this??



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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 03, 2010, 03:22:23 am »
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You can't do a proper TOC like this one in a menu bar,
i like what you've done. Just what i had in mind. - Links to high level content.

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any link on the wiki that directly or indirectly suggests home ("Home", "Personal Video Database," "PVD," etc.) should link back here
Already does. any that i missed - let me know and i can (or you can)  ;) fix.

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The wiki is for those who are already users of the software.
I don't entirely agree - i think wiki would be for new users learning about the software, features  what it can do, learning the basics etc.
Those who have used it for a while and have questions come here to the forums.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 03, 2010, 12:27:37 am »
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That's not appropriate. This is the "home" of PVD.
No probs i'll change it.
just trying to get some content up in a format that shows the potential.

I wanted one of the menu bars on left or right side to act as TOC.
That would probably need someone with admin right to do it.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:28:12 pm »
Page list is good.

I've not had much luck with table of contents. It is too hard to order contents easily.
I have found wiki trails work quite well to provide a logical order and can be used to create a table of contents automatically.

I don't know if tikiwiki has the functionality to do this. Unfortunately the mark up language is a lot different to what I use at work (pmwiki) and i'm still trying to work out its quirks. Im also trying to figure out what its feature set.

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Links from each PVD "menu option" / "menu bar option" straight to the relevant wiki page could be good though.
This is coming - I have done it using pmwiki and it is really good.
http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1692.0;attach=480
was created with pmwiki and dynamically created. Click "create pdf" button and it gathers all the pages in it "breadcrumb trail" and created a dynamic page, with links to different sections. Makes it easy to create a user manual.

BTW i have updated wiki home - completely ripped off forum home page (sorry). :-[

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 02, 2010, 08:09:53 am »
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imo the content of your home page is better than the existing one so I would be in favour of replacing it with yours. Well done.
Thanks Patch.
I've asked rick for edit access to home page. if he gives me access I will modify it to be more like   
http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=UserPagecadishere
(hopefully better)  ;D

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That's not how a wiki is supposed to work.
It doesn't have to be something that is super dynamic and content changes a lot.
My experience is that the pages are fairly static (especially how it is used now).

I would think that if it was laid out nicely and had a few simple "how to do stuff" guides that are clear and concise.
New users could go there and have a "getting started guide". Anything more complex would be through the forums.

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It's the common assumption that a wiki is maintained by "someone else" that causes a wiki to fail.

This may true, but there is no indication that it has failed.  Is there a hit counter on the wiki? Maybe users go there read the content and it is enough for them to do what they want to. Just because it is not updated does not mean its not working. Probably the opposite. If it is getting hits, it probably means the content is good and doesn't need to be updated.

My experience is they fail because the design does not meet the needs of the users.

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I believe my proposal for an Integrated Help Forum naturally overcomes the barrier this faulty assumption creates.
Maybe... there is no reason why they can't co-exist and complement each other in ways we haven't thought of.
 

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Feature Suggestions / Reviving the Wiki
« on: September 01, 2010, 02:01:30 pm »
As I have already said, I have had great success running a wiki in my work environment.
It is designed more as a web page with editable content.

I have thrown together a rough version usinging tikiwiki. (by no means professional but gives an indication of how it could work)
http://www.nimidia.com/pvd_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=UserPagecadishere
 
As nostra is administrator of wiki and PVD is his baby, i'll leave the decision up to him whether a wiki redesign is ok.

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Feature Suggestions / Re: Integrated Help Forum
« on: August 31, 2010, 12:02:55 pm »
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Perhaps you could tell us what it is you're imagining.
What i'm imagining is a help file built into pvd - called  by either f1 opens a help fiile with a list of hyperlinks or a questionmark "?" that you click and then click on the thing you want help with. The hyperlink takes you to the relevant pvd forum topic.

eg "How to use inline help" url takes you to http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php?topic=1692.msg7764#msg7764

"Is this not what you are advocating?

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The fact that nostra has not yet implemented the necessary help system (i.e., the code that would call a help file from the program) in no way implies what I'm suggesting is not dirt simple.
If it works as outlined above. Any page with as list of hyperlinks can act as the index. when nostra implements it inside pvd, it is a simple matter of porting existing links into whatever he creates.

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You're not going to goad me into creating even the beginnings of a Help forum.
Not trying to goad you into anything. But i would like to see a small trial to see if it would work in principle. As you are the moderator and it is your idea, you would be the most suitable candidate to put something up with the vision of how you see it.

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You participate enough here to understand how the forum software works
Yes and this is why I don't think it is an adequate tool for a help system. Unless the moderator (you) reads every single post in a topic and takes relevant info out and puts it into 1st post, then users have to read through potential crap to get to the bit that explains how to do something and it means a lot of work for moderator (you) in editing posts.


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Feature Suggestions / Re: Integrated Help Forum
« on: August 31, 2010, 06:10:34 am »
If it how I imagine it working, i think it will soon become unwieldy.

As a starting point perhaps you could create an index in a forum post with some potential help topics (which you can pin) - This would act as the pvd index and we can create posts to links.

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but you're dismissing the proposal without due consideration.
I think it is unfair to say I am dismissing this without consideration. But if it was as easy as you say, it would have been done many times over.

That said...

Please create a psuedo help index with some basic entries. we can link off and we can trial your suggestion.

A help system is sorely missing from PVD and would be of great benefit to many users.

Look forward to seeing something in the pipeline soon...



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