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Reviving the Wiki
rick.ca:
--- Quote from: buah on September 03, 2010, 10:17:59 am ---What we miss at the moment in any form is what I call "Undocumented or "hidden" but very powerful PVD features". Maybe it would be good to establish a separate board for this, just for the start?
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You're welcome to post whatever you like to the Support forum. Your topic might be on one such feature, or a group of them according to some theme. If they're good, we'll make them sticky. If there's many of them, we can move them to a new forum.
You're also welcome to add whatever you like to the wiki. The original author did an amazing job of covering most of the obvious topics, many holes remain unfilled. And those tend to be the more advanced ones that users really need help on. Also lacking are the "how to" type topics that actually explain how to do something complex and may require the use of many different program features—as well as external tools. For example, how to get started, import data from an existing database, mass import different meta data from a variety of sources, design a work flow for adding videos on a regular basis, etc.
patch:
--- Quote from: CAD on September 02, 2010, 03:28:12 pm ---I've not had much luck with table of contents. It is too hard to order contents easily.
I have found wiki trails work quite well to provide a logical order and can be used to create a table of contents automatically.
I don't know if tikiwiki has the functionality to do this. Unfortunately the mark up language is a lot different to what I use at work (pmwiki) and i'm still trying to work out its quirks. Im also trying to figure out what its feature set.
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Where has everyone been looking to work out how to use "structures" which I think is what is behind the toc?
This tiki wiki structure manual page looks interesting
Problems with structure order is discussed here
btw, Like the header they have on the tiki wiki site and the all documentation page. I wonder how they do it. Makes me wonder if we could put the equivalent of the http://www.videodb.info header to increase integration and provide uniform navigation buttons.
The integration will be limited by having to maintain 2 logins and associated profiles however imo it could be a step in the right direction.
CAD:
--- Quote ---want to clarify the likely future of the wiki with nostra before investing a lot of time in it.
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This is a good point - I don't want to invest a lot of effort in this if it is going to be dumped
Nostra? :)
I guess i have shown that there is potential outside of simple wiki.
--- Quote ---Where has everyone been looking to work out how to use "structures" which I think is what is behind the toc?
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i really don't know enough about tikiwiki markup yet.
I know pmwiki well and TOC / structures type stuff was really hard to get working well.
I ended up dropping it in favour of wikilinks. - one page links to another creating an index trail.
Im not sure if tikiwiki has this or some sort of equivalent.
i'll probably have install it locally to find out all its quirks, and then get rick or nostra to make admin changes or get them to grant me admin privileges if i needed.
Headers etc are good. was planning to groovy every thing up a bit as i figure out how :)
--- Quote ---The integration will be limited by having to maintain 2 logins and associated profiles however imo it could be a step in the right direction.
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I don't understand this??
patch:
--- Quote from: CAD on September 04, 2010, 08:45:04 am ---
--- Quote ---The integration will be limited by having to maintain 2 logins and associated profiles however imo it could be a step in the right direction.
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I don't understand this??
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In an ideal world we could fully integrate the wiki and the forum.
I think nostra looked at it when the wiki was first proposed and decided the time investment it would take him to move the forum to a platform which supported a wiki would be too demanding on his time. So the wiki was hosted on different software, by a PVD supportive user. (Actually there were separate English and Russian wiki if I remember correctly which were then combined into one.) If this was to be reconsidered I have no idea what software would be used as the forum in tiki wiki looks inferior to what is currently used here.
A way of making the wiki appear to be part of http://www.videodb.info would be to make the home pages identical.
Most of the links on the wiki home page would then direct the user to http://www.videodb.info pages, except of course the wiki tab.
Where this fails though is the logins/registration are separate between the different sites/software.
None the less, a wiki home page which looks and feels similar to http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/index.php and mostly links to www.videodb.info has merit imo from an integration perspective. Nostra would have to not object of course.
The alternative is we just make it as good as we can make it in its own way. Nostra would then be able to later move new useful functionality back here later if he thought some new features had merit.
CAD:
--- Quote ---In an ideal world we could fully integrate the wiki and the forum.
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ok - get it.
look and feel should be technical feasible.
Look is based on css of smf forum software. I don't know if this is subject to copyright etc.
i am happy to try and get it as good as it gets at this (early) stage.
for me content, in a an accessible, logical format comes first - bells and whistles second.
+ there is the learning curve of making it happen.
I think what i have done so far is a good start and should make it a bit easier for users to find stuff.
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